Running as a Libertarian

Hi,

Mike allegedly issued a press release a while back saying he was going to run for the Libertarian nomination for president. As I hear it, he'll be speaking at the LPNH convention this weekend, based on that commitment.

I say allegedly because that press release is not on the website, nor is any mention of his joining the LP nor running for the LP nomination. There's nothing about it on www.LP.org either.

If Mike is a man of his word, then why isn't this information posted? Or was he just looking for some increased press coverage in the Granite State?

 

Comments

Libertarian Democrats

It doesn't look like any of the three commentators after mine read what I had to say.  I DID NOT SAY THAT GRAVEL SHOULD RUN AS A LIBERTARIAN PARTY CANDIDATE!

 What I did say was that Sen. Gravel should reach out to libertarian Democrats.  According to polls, 35 to 40% of Democrats are philisophically libertarian. 

 It may be too late anyway.  Gov. Bill Richardson has actively been seeking this strong block of votes within the Democratic Party, so my efforts to help Sen. Gravel move from .5 % in the polls to 35 to 40% may be been for naught.  Even Sen. John Edwards is making overtures towards this constituency.

Mike A. Bozarth

A Libertarian DEMOCRAT

Response

Rich,

Mike Gravel has been a democrat since he joined the Alaska House of Representatives in 1963. While the senator appreciates many of the positions of the Libertarian Party, he remains a democrat who believes in the value of trans-partisanship. Regardless of our respective party affiliation, our strength as constituents lies in our collective efforts to transform the current culture of militarism, restore our lost civil liberties, strengthen the economy, and reduce pollution.

As of this writing, the senator is campaigning in New Hampshire. However he has no plans to address the LPNH convention. To my knowledge, the senator has never announced his intention to seek the presidency as anything but a democrat.

Gravel 08

And even if he did...

I've never heard Gravel claim to be a Libertarian, but so what if he did? A man can't change his mind? You should produce some documents before you question Gravel's word on this forum.

I think the Libs are alright, but enough already with all the 'party' talk. The issues are what counts and Gravel, more than any other candidate, is making sense.

In addition ...

In addition to Alex's and Suzy's comments, it makes more sense for Senator Gravel to run as a Democrat. The restrictions on new candidates within the two-party system are far less than trying a third party bid. Having always been a good Democrat gives Mike extra incentive to bring the Party back to the people.

DON

Only democracy will save us!

Definitley

I think Mike is just an old school democrat and I think that's what we need more to get the party back to how it used to be and I think slowly but surely that can happen with democrats who are really interested getting back to that type of party.

Libertarian Democrats

I thought that I should explain what a libertarian is.

Libertarians believe people should be allowed to do whatever they wish, so long as they do not interfere with the rights or property of someone else.  They support a very limited government, much less taxes and more individual freedom.

Libertarians come in many different shades.  To explain this, I will call the Libertarian Party "mainstream" libertarian. The Libertarian Party is the third largest political party, organized in all 50 states and has about 450 people in local public office. You also have "right-wing libertarians" such as the Republican Liberty Caucus led by U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (Texas) who is seeking the GOP nomination for president this year.  You have "left-wing libertarians" such as the Democratic Freedom Caucus (and the Libertarian Democratic Caucus on My Space).  Some radical libertarians are anarchists (such as Professor Robert LeFevre, author).

In Missouri, it is legal to belong to two parties.  I have been a member of the Libertarian Party since 1987, am county chair, on the state central and state executive committees and have been a delegate to the last two national conventions.

I am also a member of the Democratic Party.  I am State Chairman and a member of the National Committee of the Democratic Freedom Caucus. I'm also moderator of the My Space Libertarian Democratic Caucus.  "Libertarian" or "freedom" Democrats also refer to ourselves as Jeffersonian Democrats.

 Many of Sen. Gravel's views would be considered "libertarian."  Getting us out of Iraq, eliminating the IRS and federal income tax in favor of a fairer form of taxation, decriminalizing marijuana, and allowing gays to serve in the military are all views held by all shades of libertarians.

Polls have indicated that as many as 30% of the American electorate are libertarian.  With no other Democrats appealing to libertarian/Jeffersonian Democrats (except maybe Gov. Bill Richardson) this is a substantial number of Democrats without a voice.  Personally, I would like to see Sen. Gravel seek out these Democrats to help build a viable base while seeking the presidential nomination. 

For further information you can go to: http://www.progress.org/dfc/  or http://groups.myspace.com/LDC2006

Many of us "libertarian" or "Jeffersonian" Democrats are already lining up behind Sen. Gravel. This is a natural constituency for the Senator. 

 

Libretarian?

Gravel a Libertarian? Not sure what that means, exactly or what Libertarians stand for. At this point I don't really care what he wants to call himself, I just think he should stick around as long as he can and tell the politicians where to go.

Exactly.

Must agree with your last sentence. Freaking out over party distinctions just makes the speaker look like s/he is discriminating. ("The differential treatment of individuals considered to belong to particular groups or categories.")

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"The less a person understands a position they hold, the more emotionally bonded to it they become. One who takes something on faith never knows when their position is no longer valid. The ironic result is that the more justifiable a position is, the less vehement its supporters, and the less justifiable a position is, the more strenuous its supporters are, leading to violent and extreme reactions in defense of completely unsupportable positions."

Yeah, I'd like to see a link.

You should back up your comments before accusing people of publicity stunts. Gravel's always been a dem.

You got a link for that? Did

You got a link for that? Did he ever speak at the convention?

No. I just did another

No. I just did another search of the site, and no info about his Libertarian declaration has been posted yet. And I still have not received confirmation of this from the campaign.

He did speak at the LPNH convention, but the delegates decided to support George Phillies instead, mostly over disagreement with some of Mike's campaign platform.

So, at the moment it looks like it was a publicity stunt.

Well since Mr. Gravel spoke

Well since Mr. Gravel spoke at the DNC winter meeting this past weekend I'm assuming he's at least now running as a democrat. I'm personally glad because we need more democrats like Mr. Gravel. Someone who truly is a liberal leftist like myself and so Dennis Kucinich isn't the lone ranger out there. I actually think Mr. Gravel is even more left then the good congressman. Perhaps it wasn't a publicity stunt and that he just wasn't sure?